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Stuart Wilson's avatar

Hi David,

I'm thoroughly enjoying your book, which I feel is ground-breaking.

I have a question though. In my copy of the Liverpool Echo from the day he was assassinated, the article mentions a witness called Carrie Rouse. She says "He was bleeding heavily. His eyes were closed. Then he slowly rolled over." She also says that his last words were "help me".

Are you aware of this witness? I don't think she's mentioned in your book.

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David Whelan's avatar

Hi Stuart,

Thank you for your kind words on the book.

Yes, I was aware of the Carrie Rouse story. It originated on the night of the assassination from a New York News Agency and was then picked up by the Echo the next day. The Rouse story then totally disappeared thereafter.

I believe the Rouse statement is false and it may have been wholly made up to provide copy. Similar to the story of Chapman having multiple Beatles tapes on him. If the Rouse story did stack up, I'm sure she would have been plastered across every newspaper in the world. For Rouse to get to witness John's alleged last words, she would have had to walk past Perdomo and Chapman. She then had to get into the building and make her way somehow behind the main lobby desk and then into a back-office. Nobody has said they saw Rouse at the scene and how could she know where to go? There were multiple directions for her to possibly take from the driveway.

Also, John's last words that Rouse allegedly heard in the back office, according to all of the medical personnel who saw John's wounds, he could not have possibly made with his wounds.

I'm 100% satisfied this never happened.

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Forrest's avatar

Thanks for fighting the good fight in helping to the plunge through the oceans of lies and deceit that shape the perceptions of everyone on earth. Here’s to shedding some light on a dark happening.

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David Whelan's avatar

Thank you.

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John William Stacy's avatar

Just finished the doc. Only three episodes. Pretty bad. They mention Klein, an MKUltra affiliated psychiatrist, who worked for the defense. That was it. But, I didn’t need Bresler’s research to persuade me of government intervention. Everyone I knew at the time, openly expressed their belief that it was an assassination.

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Phrequency's avatar

Yes, of course...the timing says it all...transition period between Carter and Reagan...to get the 80s started...and escalate the Cold War...it was deemed necessary to clip Lennon...I know some reading this think I'm a troll...I am not...I am speaking the Truth as best as I can...JL was a casualty of the Cold War...it was a pre-emptive strike...they'd had enough of Lennon...he was a major headache during the Vietnam war...he had too much influence...people like me listened to his every word...if you really want to get down to it...Bush Sr is implicated in this assassination...a few months later he tried to kill his boss...interestingly...Hinckley Sr was a friend of Bush...and his son was a friend of MDC...oh what a tangled web we weave...

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John William Stacy's avatar

Definitely agree with your mention of JL’s influence on people (the have-nots) aligned against the establishment (the haves) — he might still be around if he had stayed quiet, but he was having a comeback. He was a threat to Capitalism and those that own and maintain it. But, then I tend to see things from a Systems perspective so I only see one long war with many battles. JL was a casualty of that.

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Norm Koerner's avatar

So I would recommend listening to Mae Brussel's broadcasts on the Lennon assassinations. It's the 1 stop place for reviewing all the extraordinary travels on one Mark Chapman. Brussel mentions how Sen. Strom Thurmond and John Mitchell were trying to get Lennon deported starting back in 1970 and she alleges that Thurmond, NSC director Richard Allen, and William Casey conspired to kill Lennon because as you pointed out they anticipated that Lennon might oppose the wars they were planning after Reagan was elected. NSC Director Allen is especially interesting given his inside stealth role and the fact that he spoke German fluently as Brussel relates how Allen was connected to Gladio Nazis via dat Otto Von Bolsching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSl_sErqa6E

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Norm Koerner's avatar

Actually this is the video that starts mentioning Allen, Thurmond, I believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fChGk-Pt9Qw

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Norm Koerner's avatar

And who was Thurmond's star pupil and worshipper on the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1980 when Lennon was assassinated. Joseph Biden. Wonder what he Strom confided to him on whodunnit?

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Norm Koerner's avatar

Also back to Chapman and World Vision, Sander's foreign policy guy - Matt Duss's father - Ukrainian emigre to postwar Germany at age 2 - Serge Duss also worked at World Vision for 16 years amonst other evangelical positions in his career. Haven't the time now to refresh my memory on Hinckley's & Duss's tenures in World Vision and MDC & JH but there is a book I want to read about all The Company's "aid" cut-outs: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0984185844/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=A14R1Y9N6LFBBV&psc=1

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Norm Koerner's avatar

And from just perusing the book on Amazon right now it refers to Presbytereanism and guess what type of college MChapman go to? Presbyterean college in Tenessee. Brussel above mentions in her broadcast .

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Norm Koerner's avatar

found dat book free at archive: https://archive.org/details/certainarrogance0000evic/page/178/mode/2up

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PSecosh's avatar

Ordered! I'm excited to read this David! I've been following your articles closely since you started work on this. I'll probably talk this up on my show.

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Leo Helmar's avatar

The cover is very fetching and I am looking forward to reading my copy. I'm a long time devotee to the work of Mae Brussel so this book is immensely appealing. Congratulations!

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David Whelan's avatar

Thank you Leo.

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Greasy Belcher's avatar

Hi David,

I am currently reading your book (after watching your interview with Johnny Vedmore).

Upon learning that Mark Chapmans hotel room contained an item with an image from "The Wizard of Oz", I would like to point you towards reading the book. "Trance Formation of America: The True Life Story of a CIA Mind Control Slave" by Cathy O'Brian. Cathy survived horrific events as a mind controlled slave of MK Ultra. She explains in her book, how her MK Ultra captors used "The Wizard of Oz" to brainwash and terrorize its victims from childhood. There is a lot more in the book that will help you unravel MDC and Lennon's assassination.

I would also recommend "Rape Of The Mind - The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and. Brainwashing". by Joost A. M. Meerlo. This book is available publicly for free via internet archives.

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Also… in her book, Cathy O Brien explains how she would be sent on trips to different places around the world and be introduced to imoortant people to make her feel important. Whilst on these trips she would assassinate people. (Maybe that’s what paid for Marks 40 day round the world trip). Cathy O’Brien was also introduced to Gerald Ford, and Ronald Regan. She explains in the book how MK Ultra substitute words with other words to mask communication in public. The word “print” means “Prince”. The words “stay on the path” mean, complete the mission. This relates to the Wizard of Oz, where Dorothy has to stay on the yellow brick road.

As for my thoughts on why John Lennon was assassinated. Consider the fact that when the Beatles were stationed in Hamburg there would have been lots of audience members who were schooled during the Nazi era and raised to believe that Christianity was a scourge upon humanity that was incompatible with National Socialism. The impressionable young Beatles were taking drugs at after parties with these audience members, resulting in the Beatles later making anti Christian statements which MK Ultra’s creators would have been pleased with. However, John later realised that Nazis had infiltrated allied governments with the assassination of JFK. He wrote about this in “A Day In The Life. (1967).

I read the news today, oh boy

About a lucky man who made the grade (Kennedy).

And though the news was rather sad

Well, I just had to laugh

I saw the photograph (Lee Harvey Oswald)

He blew his mind out in a car

He didn't notice that the lights had changed

A crowd of people stood and stared

They'd seen his face before

Nobody was really sure if he was from the House of Lords

I saw a film today, oh boy (the news)

The English Army had just won the war

A crowd of people turned away

But I just had to look (look into the truth about Nazi infiltration)

Having read the book

I'd love to turn you on

Here the song takes an abrupt turn as if the subject has to be dropped.

In recent years the diaries, business papers and personal letters of Hitler’s top commando Otto Skorzeny went up for auction. They were purchased by a US Major and turned into a book, they prove that Otto Skorzeny’s post WWII Black Ops / mercenary business organised the killing of JfK, which occurred 6 weeks after JFK spoke at the 18th assembly of the United Nations and publicly announced his intention to combine US and Russian space programs in order to extinguish the Cold War.

I realise, anyone dissecting Beatles lyrics like this will be dismissed as being just as crazy as Charles Manson. That’s quite a neat trick by MK Ultra, to have Manson prevent people from examining or discussing John Lennons lyrics and working out, that on multiple occasions John Lennon was attempting to reveal that the supposed vanquishing of the enemy after WWII was an illusion. Lennon knew in truth that the assassination of JFK was a Wizard of Oz like moment that spun the world into a horrific new reality. The writer of Blade Runner, Philip K. Dick wrote a book “The Man in The High Castle”, (1962) which delves into the Nazis post war efforts to change the course of the future with assassinations. Similar to the Wizard of Oz, things begin to spin and subjects teleport between dimensions. In the end Philip K Dick had to stop looking into post war Nazis as it began to drive him crazy. He died in 1982, after attending an interview he went he began to go blind and had a stroke. (1982).

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.". - John Lennon

Everybody's talking and no one says a word. Everybody's making love and no one really cares, there's Nazis in the bathroom, just below the stairs. - John Lennon, Nobody Told Me.

(A song recorded during the Double Fantasy sessions, but saved by John for his next album, which he did not live to record).

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Phrequency's avatar

We have to have full spectrum dominance...that means land, sea, air, and yes...the internet

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Phrequency's avatar

Your book just arrived today...all 422 pages of it...I am very much looking forward to reading your book...Cheers

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Stuart Wilson's avatar

Dave, I've ordered it! Been waiting a long time for this. 43 years, to be precise.

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David Whelan's avatar

Thanks Stuart

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Bernard Doug Cook's avatar

David, in your book you paint a confusing picture of what Padermo said to authors Hinckle (not Hinckley as you mistakenly write in one sentence) & Turner that when he (Padermo) turned around after hearing gunshots, he saw Lennon slumped [inside] the vestibule area, yet you write that he told them the bullets must have driven him back out through the vestibule door, then you state he helped him up whereupon they went through the mahogany lobby doors to the concierge area, but you don't say there [where] he picked Lennon up.(??) Did he say Lennon was slumped [inside] the vestibule area or was he outside in the driveway when he helped him up?

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Bernard Doug Cook's avatar

Why did you write in the book that Fidel Castro was the "elected" leader of Cuba? That is quite untrue, Castro led a revolution which overthrew the then leader of the Cuban government, Batista. Afterwards he consolidated power but never held a democratic election. You furthermore go on to say that Frank Sturgis was "working for" President Nixon, when in fact, Nixon had no knowledge of the burglars or the break-in, Sturgis was, as evidence has shown, working for the CIA as the latter was trying to "set up" Nixon for a fall, which is exactly what happened. Pardon me for asking but are you so loose with all the "facts" in your book?

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Bernard Doug Cook's avatar

Is the book not available for a Kindle?

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Juan Carlos Rodríguez's avatar

Hi David

I'm a Cuban musician and Lennon fan, I recently discovered your investigation, as you can imagine I'm in shock, and it's makes sense to me. I see nothing new have come out recently, your documentary for example. Thank you

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Luke Forster's avatar

Hi David, I read Rosen’s book back in 2000 and the line about it being based on “speculative journalism “ or whatever phrase he used took all of my enthusiasm away. I have spoken to Mike Maedeiros a few times online. He has been trying to get his book on Lennon “Barefoot In Nutopia” published. So far he has been unsuccessful, and as I’m sure you know, has a long and tangled history with Yoko Ono.

Don’t play the game David, keep to yourself and your first rate research, these critics will suck the life out of you. I’ve been interested in Lennon since the late 80s and your book is the only book that has made positive and credible progress. Fenton Bressler’s book a close second in my opinion. Your book is next to his on my shelf!

One last thing, be careful. I know it sounds dramatic, but you are putting information out there that may make certain people volatile and they may retaliate.

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Lee Humphreys's avatar

@LennonMurder Hi David. I have just ordered your book, after listening to several podcasts that you’ve done in the past year. Out of The Blank stuff is exceptional. Just wondered if @marklewisohn has been in touch to assess your work??

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David Wilson's avatar

Hi David, I listened to your SATB interview with Robert Rodriguez and would like to read the book. Will it be available as a Kindle ebook? Cheers!

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